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	<title>Comments on: Seagate Momentus Drive Failures [Updated]</title>
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		<title>By: Rowland Jobson</title>
		<link>http://www.dq-int.co.uk/blog/2007/07/19/seagate-momentus-drive-failures/#comment-2371</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowland Jobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should start a class action suit in court against Seagate and Apple who put some in their machines. 

In fact  am getting pretty determind to make a film about it as I lost 5 years worth of my work and business and the first drive and a backup drive!

They have known there was a problem with this drive for sometime and not informed anyone they should protect their data!

If you want bring Seagate to Justice there is  a US based lawyer who is starting a suit because of another hard drive issue.

Get in touch with me. Join together and see justice done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should start a class action suit in court against Seagate and Apple who put some in their machines. </p>
<p>In fact  am getting pretty determind to make a film about it as I lost 5 years worth of my work and business and the first drive and a backup drive!</p>
<p>They have known there was a problem with this drive for sometime and not informed anyone they should protect their data!</p>
<p>If you want bring Seagate to Justice there is  a US based lawyer who is starting a suit because of another hard drive issue.</p>
<p>Get in touch with me. Join together and see justice done!</p>
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		<title>By: straywasp</title>
		<link>http://www.dq-int.co.uk/blog/2007/07/19/seagate-momentus-drive-failures/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>straywasp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Treeguru. I&#039;m sorry to hear that you&#039;ve suffered from this drive problem. You are not the first and unfortunately won&#039;t be the last. We have known about this problem for over two years but we don&#039;t have any budget to advertise these problems. Unfortunately for you, most people don&#039;t find this blog until it&#039;s too late.

I am not aware of any lawsuits relating to these drives and Apple. It is pretty standard policy for laptop manufacturers to only cover the hardware cost when it comes to hard drives. 

Although I don&#039;t agree that manufacturers should be held liable for data recovery, I do think they could make more effort in explaining that the hard disk in their laptop is a delicate piece of engineering and should be backed up regularly. The sad fact is that all hard drives will eventually fail, it is just a question of timescale. We have seen drives fail within weeks of manufacture. There may be a correlation between the increase in drive capacity and track density, and faster failure rates but this is purely speculation.

Our personal view is that Apple should have sent out e-mails to all MacBook owners warning of the possible problem and suggesting backups and maybe even replacements. They must have a customer database with contact details for a large proportion of MacBook owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Treeguru. I&#8217;m sorry to hear that you&#8217;ve suffered from this drive problem. You are not the first and unfortunately won&#8217;t be the last. We have known about this problem for over two years but we don&#8217;t have any budget to advertise these problems. Unfortunately for you, most people don&#8217;t find this blog until it&#8217;s too late.</p>
<p>I am not aware of any lawsuits relating to these drives and Apple. It is pretty standard policy for laptop manufacturers to only cover the hardware cost when it comes to hard drives. </p>
<p>Although I don&#8217;t agree that manufacturers should be held liable for data recovery, I do think they could make more effort in explaining that the hard disk in their laptop is a delicate piece of engineering and should be backed up regularly. The sad fact is that all hard drives will eventually fail, it is just a question of timescale. We have seen drives fail within weeks of manufacture. There may be a correlation between the increase in drive capacity and track density, and faster failure rates but this is purely speculation.</p>
<p>Our personal view is that Apple should have sent out e-mails to all MacBook owners warning of the possible problem and suggesting backups and maybe even replacements. They must have a customer database with contact details for a large proportion of MacBook owners.</p>
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		<title>By: treeguru</title>
		<link>http://www.dq-int.co.uk/blog/2007/07/19/seagate-momentus-drive-failures/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>treeguru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MacBook w/SEAGATE ST98823AS failed and I&#039;m royally p****d off.  Does anyone know if there is anyone or more people seeking legal action or willing to do so thru a class action suit?  Disclaimers about the contents of the drive not being protected are ridiculous.  That would be like saying your car is insured but not the passengers. NONSENSE. ITS TIME MANUFACTURERS WERE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR SHODDY PRODUCTS. MAC SHOULD BE A PART OF THE LEGAL ACTION.
My old PowerBook G3 lasted for 10 years. This hard drive was a little over 2 yrs.
The anguish this whole thing is more than I could have imagined. I trusted MAC based on past experience. More fool me. But having said that . . . I&#039;m not satisfied and won&#039;t be until something is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MacBook w/SEAGATE ST98823AS failed and I&#8217;m royally p****d off.  Does anyone know if there is anyone or more people seeking legal action or willing to do so thru a class action suit?  Disclaimers about the contents of the drive not being protected are ridiculous.  That would be like saying your car is insured but not the passengers. NONSENSE. ITS TIME MANUFACTURERS WERE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR SHODDY PRODUCTS. MAC SHOULD BE A PART OF THE LEGAL ACTION.<br />
My old PowerBook G3 lasted for 10 years. This hard drive was a little over 2 yrs.<br />
The anguish this whole thing is more than I could have imagined. I trusted MAC based on past experience. More fool me. But having said that . . . I&#8217;m not satisfied and won&#8217;t be until something is done.</p>
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		<title>By: straywasp</title>
		<link>http://www.dq-int.co.uk/blog/2007/07/19/seagate-momentus-drive-failures/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>straywasp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That drive may have different symptoms to the usual fault. The common drives are Seagate Momentus 5400.2 from MacBooks. We would be happy to look at the drive for you. There is not much an end-user can do when internal rework is required. With regard to the old Hitachi drive, we do see a fair amount of those for recovery too. The best way to protect your data is to copy it to many different brands of media, in different geographical locations, in the hope that one of them will survive if something bad were to happen. Sorry for the doom and gloom but all hard drives fail. It is just a matter of time!
Dan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That drive may have different symptoms to the usual fault. The common drives are Seagate Momentus 5400.2 from MacBooks. We would be happy to look at the drive for you. There is not much an end-user can do when internal rework is required. With regard to the old Hitachi drive, we do see a fair amount of those for recovery too. The best way to protect your data is to copy it to many different brands of media, in different geographical locations, in the hope that one of them will survive if something bad were to happen. Sorry for the doom and gloom but all hard drives fail. It is just a matter of time!<br />
Dan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wil Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.dq-int.co.uk/blog/2007/07/19/seagate-momentus-drive-failures/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Wil Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had the Seagate 160GB Momentus 7200.2 catastrophically crash this morning on starting up.   Makes a finger along a comb noise.   It is in a Dell M4300 that is 4 mths old.   I have 10 days of data on it that I cannot recover without spending $2000 with 50% success rate.
ST9160823ASG
The old Dell had a Hitachi drive in it and that worked fine!
Ahhhhghghgggg!!!!!!!!!!!

WG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had the Seagate 160GB Momentus 7200.2 catastrophically crash this morning on starting up.   Makes a finger along a comb noise.   It is in a Dell M4300 that is 4 mths old.   I have 10 days of data on it that I cannot recover without spending $2000 with 50% success rate.<br />
ST9160823ASG<br />
The old Dell had a Hitachi drive in it and that worked fine!<br />
Ahhhhghghgggg!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>WG</p>
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		<title>By: siculars</title>
		<link>http://www.dq-int.co.uk/blog/2007/07/19/seagate-momentus-drive-failures/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>siculars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can verify this as a problem on the seagate ST9100823A pulled out of a powerbook g4.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;there is a horrid mechanical clicking sound, an attached drive light from an ata to usb board comes up solid red. sounds like the head mechanism is borked and its scratching the disk surface. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can verify this as a problem on the seagate ST9100823A pulled out of a powerbook g4.</p>
<p>there is a horrid mechanical clicking sound, an attached drive light from an ata to usb board comes up solid red. sounds like the head mechanism is borked and its scratching the disk surface. </p>
<p>sucks.</p>
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